Shoe Review: Saucony Progrid Kinvara 3

Saucony Kinvara 3 Mens White Blue

Saucony Kinvara 3 Mens in White/Blue

The Saucony Progrid Kinvara 3 is an exceptional shoe. In fact, up to this day, it’s my favorite road running shoe. For those of you who want the condensed version of this review, here it is: priced at $100, the Kinvara 3 is a light-weight road running shoe for runners transitioning to minimalist running. And just like its predecessor, the Kinvara 3 has a 4 mm heal-to-toe differential (23mm and 19mm). In this review, I’ll be referring to last year’s Kinvara 2 for comparison. But in short, if you liked the Kinvara 2 before, you will most likely love the Kinvara 3 this year.

Before I begin, let me clarify a few things. I received a pair of Kinvara 3′s for free because I won a photo contest. There exist no sponsorship, compensation, or other types of professional relationships between Saucony and me for writing this review. Moreover, I do not use cookies or codes on this site to earn commission if you purchase anything, anywhere. I have good things to say about the Kinvara 3 simply because I enjoy running in it more so than I do in other shoes I’ve tried. I do not have brand loyalty towards any shoe maker, including Saucony. Also keep in mind: what works for me may or may not work for you. That being said, I’ll attempt to review the Kinvara 3 heavily based on how it differs from the previous version.

Features

Upper

  • FlexFilm – a strong, pliable upper that adapts to your foot and provides a seamless feel
  • Open Mesh- a breathable, light-weight fabric that works together with FlexFilm to cover most of the upper

    Saucony Kinvara 3 Upper FlexFilm

    The entire upper of Saucony Kinvara 3 is made of seamless FlexFilm and open mesh.

  • Memory Foam Heel Pods – soft and bouncy pods near the ankle area to provide a better fit and secure the foot
  • Hydramax Collar Lining – moisture-wicking material that keeps your foot comfortable
  • EVA Sockliner- removable insole

    Saucony Kinvara 3 HydraMAX collar lining

    The interior collar has HydraMax lining. Memory foam heel pods help secure the heel.

Midsole

  • Heel ProGrid – Grid-like shock absorption system that’s placed under the heel
  • High Abrasion EVA (EVA+) – a full-length composite foam for cushioning
  • 4mm Offset – to promote a more natural foot strike

Outsole

  • XT-900 – carbon rubber outsole that enhances traction and durability
  • Triangular Lug Design – provides extended traction as well as responsive sensory feedback

Impression

Upon holding the Kinvara 3 in my hand for the first time, my immediate thought was that this shoe doesn’t feel noticeably heavier than the Kinvara 2. I knew for a fact that the Kinvara 3 (7.9 oz – mens size 9) weighs 0.6 oz more than its predecessor (based on specs from Running Warehouse) only because I’ve read about it. However it does feel significantly heavier than the Skechers GOrun (6.9 oz) or the Nike Free 3.0 V4 (7.0 oz).

Saucony Kinvara 3 Mens Black Citron Red

Saucony Kinvara 3 Mens in black/citron/red looks pretty good to me.

Saucony Kinvara 3 front and back views

Patches of reflective material can be found in the heel area for safety

Kinvara 3′ most striking feature to me is the appearance of its upper material – the FlexFilm. This curiously shiny and plasticky material extends and wraps around the foot, atop of the open mesh that constitutes almost all of Kinvara 3′s upper. At first glance, I began doubting whether this new upper would hold up longer than that of Kinvara 2′s. To my recollection, I started to notice holes on my Kinvara 2′s upper at around 200 miles of moderate usage. Since durability is a huge concern of mine, my skepticism kept me from drawing a favorable conclusion initially. More on this later.

But even if this upper fails to improve on Kinvara 3′s performance, at least the color combination looks mean and deadly to me. This is personal – but I particularly like the fading of colors from the toe to the heel. Keep in mind this “fade” isn’t available in every color combination, if vanity is your thing.

Saucony Kinvara 3 Mens Black Citron Red

Close-up of the Saucony Kinvara 3

There is no hard heel counter on the Kinvara 3. The entire upper of the Kinvara 3 can be squished flat onto its sole. There are reflective elements on the heel cup as well as the lateral side (outside) of the midsole.

The midsole of the Kinvara 3 looks different than that of Kinvara 2′s only in appearance, but not in height or size. To me this doesn’t seem to be a huge feature nor improvement.

Saucony Kinvara 3 profile lateral view

Additional reflective material is placed on the midsole near the mid-foot area

Saucony Kinvara 3 profile medial view

The Kinvara 3 has the same heel-to-toe differential (4 mm) as its previous version

Kinvara 3′s redesigned outsole makes more sense than Kinvara 2′s. Saucony relocated and redistributed the carbon rubber outsole material under the Kinvara 3. There is now carbon rubber extending from the heel all the way to the midfoot areaunderneath the entire lateral area underfoot. On the contrary, carbon rubber is removed from the medial side to reduce weight. Additionally, the carbon rubber triangular lugs in the forefoot area have been reduced in number – from 15 to 13 – to shed weight further. Note that there’s a tiny bit of extra carbon material under the big toe added to help durability and traction.

Saucony Kinvara 3 Outsole

The updated outsole of the Kinvara 3 looks promising.

Performance

Upper

I logged 319 miles on the Kinvara 3 between May 2012 and August 2012. This shoe is drastically tougher than the Kinvara 2. Wearing the Kinvara 3, I’ve run as hard as I could in blistering heat, in drenching downpour, on slippery trails, on good o’ pavement, and, of courseon, on track with one goal in mind – to break this shoe. Yet I couldn’t produce one hole in the upper from running, nor could I sand down its treads after 300 miles. As I mentioned earlier, my old Kinvara 2 began to show signs of aging around 200 miles. That is not the case for the Kinvara 3. The shoe’s upper material (FlexFilm) is noteworthy in several ways. This flimsy-looking, candy-wrapper-like sheet that appears to be the exoskeleton of the Kinvara 3 is strangely pliable yet tough. The combination of FlexFilm and the open mesh underneath it makes the resultant upper feel a bit like a thick plastic bag with one exception – it’s well ventilated and breathable.

serious issue with the Kinvara 2 I haven’t mentioned yet is its toebox. Since the birth of Kinvara 1, many runners have been complained about its narrow width. This problem continued unaddressed in the Kinvara 2. While some people were fine with Kinvara 2′s width in the toebox, I found it to be Kinvara 2′s Achilles’ heel (nice analogy, huh?). I have wide and stubby feet (kind of like Donald Duck’s). So it’s very important to me that a running shoe is not narrow, or at least is available in widths – the Kinvara 2 was neither. The only reason I didn’t stock up on the Kinvara 2 last year was its width. The good news is that Saucony did its homework and paid attention to runners like me who begged and pleaded for a roomier toebox in the Kinvara line. Now this is entirely personal – but I think Saucony hits the spot this time as far as toebox is concerned.

Midsole

The midsole of the Kinvara 3 feels relatively unchanged. It has a stack height of 23 mm in the heel and 19 mm in the forefoot – providing the same 4 mm drop that many runners prefer. For those of you who have never run in a Kinvara before, you can expect the EVA+ midsole to be thin, flexible, bouncy, and responsive. It gives a good degree of cushioning, yet doesn’t take away the ground-feel too much. To me, the Kinvara 3′s midsole is a great – if not the best – compromise between a traditional clunky running shoe and a next-to-nothing minimalist footwear. And if you’ve enjoyed running in the Kinvara 2 previously, you’ll be delighted to find out the midsole will not feel much different from last year’s model. Also note that Kinvara 3′s EVA+ midsole shows very slight deformation even after 300 miles (the is strictly subjective because I don’t have the resources to measure it quantitatively or qualitatively).

There is a slight arch post inside the shoe as part of the midsole foam. It’s not a major bump in any sense – very similar to Kinvara 2′s interior.

Saucony Kinvara 3 midsole wear deformation comparison

Midsole comparison between a new Kinvara 3 (top) and one with 300 miles. Notice the  slight yet visible deformation of the foam in the arch area.

Outsole

In addition to its excellent upper and midsole, the Kinvara 3′s outsole has received a remarkable update. As a result, the longevity of the outsole is dramatically increased by the strategically placed carbon rubber (XT-900) units. I especially like the relocation of carbon rubber in the heel area towards the lateral side (outside) of the foot. On the other hand, I wish the triangular lugs of carbon rubber were thicker and wider - like the carbon rubber unit below the big toe – for they’ve exhibited the most wear and tear underneath the ball of the foot. Other than that, the outsole of the Kinvara 3 can take a good beating – well, compared to its predecessors anyway.

Saucony Kinvara 3 forefoot wear comparison

Wear comparison between a Kinvara 3 with 300 miles (left) and a new one. Notice the are under the ball of the foot displays a relatively high amount of wear.

Saucony Kinvara 3 heel wear comparison

Wear comparison between a Kinvara 3 with 300 miles (right) and a new one.

The grip and traction of the Kinvara 3 are excellent in most conditions and usual terrains – I haven’t tried the shoe in snow yet. I don’t recommend using this shoe excessively on trail because there’s no rock protection on the Kinvara 3. For that reason, you may find the new Kinvara TR more suitable for trail running.

Verdict

Prior to trying the Kinvara 3, I’ve been reading reviews from various sources. The Kinvara 3 has garnered many favorable reviews on the web from runners all around. That is why I chose to be more critical than ever in constructing this review. You see, I already knew the Kinvara 3 is a good shoe before putting it on – so I set a personal goal to break this shoe and find its flaws. But I wasn’t able to do either. Instead I kept piling on miles under this well-rounded running shoe that seems to have a little extra something that’s missing in its rivals. However, there are 2 minor changes I’d like to see on the next Kinvara update. First is the durability of the outsole in the forefoot area as I described earlier; the other is weight reduction. But I may be asking too much.

Like I said before, I don’t get compensated at all whether you buy the Kinvara 3 (or anything) – and Saucony isn’t necessarily the best shoe maker in my worthless opinion. Transparency and honesty are of utmost importance to me because that is the basis of any good relationship. With that said, in this review I’m merely sharing with you reasons that I’ve bought a few pairs of the Kinvara 3′s for the next few hundreds (hopefully thousands) of miles I plan to run. I also bought a pair for my father and recommended it to a dear runner friend (@AspiraSean on Twitter), who ended up buying a pair for his wife because he loves the shoe as well.

Before I conclude all this mumbo jumbo, let me point out that although the Kinvara 3 is a versatile, all-around running shoe capable for training and racing, it isn’t a shoe for everyone. For runners who have always run in heavier shoes with thicker heels or higher heel-to-toe offest, it is extremely important to allow the body to ease its way into the Kinvara’s. I certainly don’t advice you to pick up the Kinvara 3 today and run a marathon tomorrow if you aren’t used to this type of transitional minimalist footwear. For $100, there are much better ways to get hurt than buying a pair of running shoes and running hard in them.

The Kinvara 2 was my favorite shoe in 2011. As a matter of fact, I liked running in it so much that it was my choice of shoe for my first 50K run last year. I actually had to replace the insole (sockliner) of the Kinvara 2 because I still liked running in it regularly after 400 miles. I finally retired the Kinvara 2 when I put on the Kinvara 3, which is my favorite shoe in 2012 so far. Like it’s older brother, the Kinvara 3 gives me just enough cushioning to tackle long distances on the road, yet possesses ample flexibility and a low stack height for a more natural running style. It is quite possibly going to be my go-to shoe in 2012 (knocking down the impressive Skechers GOrun that I also enjoyed earlier in 2012) because – to say the very least – Saucony really listened to the feedback from running community this time. Kinvara 2′s narrow width, flimsy upper, and frail outsole have been, finally, addressed by this update. So go try out the Kinvara 3 for yourself – you don’t have to take my word for it.

Update

  • October 14, 2012 (507 miles) – one black rubber triangle in the forefoot area is almost gone. Along the entire lateral side, however, most of the outsole is still intact – at least in my case. There’s is no observable wear and tear on the upper at all! I have retired this shoe and started using another pair of Kinvara 3 because the insole (removable insert) has developed deep footprint in it. The interior of the midsole underneath the insert is also concave downward – a sign of irreversible plastic deformation, mechanical speaking. I need to replace this shoe because it’s creating extra friction and rubbing on my toes due to the deformed interior. Compared to the Kinvara 2 – the Kinvara 3 ages much better.

    Saucony Kinvara 3 outsole wear after 500 miles

    The wear pattern of the Kinvara 3 shows here after I ran 507 miles in it.

What’s your go-to running shoe? Have you tried or heard of the Kinvara? What other shoes would you like to see me review in the future? Please share in the comment section below.

Author Bio: Kevin Lu is an engineer. He received his B.S. and M.S. in biomedical engineering from NJIT. Science, technology, and running are Kevin’s passions. In his spare time, Kevin trains for and participates in races of various distances. In addition to Beyond Distance, Kevin also writes for iRunnerBlog as a columnist. Find out more about Kevin here and follow him on Twitter.
  • Ezra

    Fantastic review on the Saucony K3′s. My goto shoe right now for distance, running 1/2 marathons, and working my way up to first full. What actually brought me here initially tho is,’how many miles do you tend to put on a long distance shoe before you retire it?’ I have heard rumors the K3 has a shorter life span…and now that i have cleared 300 some miles on them, they are starting to feel pretty soft and i am starting to acquire some tinges and small pains in my legs….

  • azrael

    hey kevin, great review!  my go-to running shoe for 2012 is also the saucony kinvara 3.  but i do still switch back-and-forth between those and the new balance minimus road mr10 (my go-to for 2011).  will you be reviewing the nike flyknit line of shoes (trainers and/or racers) in the future?  there’s been a major dearth of legit runners reviewing these shoes for some reason (makes me think they may not be good distance shoes).  how about the adidas adipure line (i’m personally most interested in the gazelle)?  i may pick-up a pair of the sketchers go-run to try out because of your previous review of them.

    • http://www.BeyondDistance.com/ Kevin

      Thanks for reading. Like you, I still have the New Balance MR10 in my rotation because it’s quite durable and fits me well. Funny you should mention the Flyknits – I wanted to try them out when I first heard about them. But somehow I lost interested in it. I am quite curious about the Adipure Gazelle however. Perhaps I should check it out soon.

      I liked the GOrun so much that I wore it for my Marathon back in May. It’s not perfect, of course, because of “rocker” bottom was bulging out too much in my taste. Skechers seems to have listened to the feedback and addressed this issue in the GOrun Ride, which I’m currently testing. If you are looking for an even more “minimalist” shoe that’s similar to the MR10, check out the GO Bionic from Skechers.

      Also the 2nd version of the GOrun will be released in the coming months (I think early 2013) – if you want to wait and check out that.

      • azrael

        regarding the flyknits…i actually have 1 pair of of the racers and 1 pair of the trainers.  i’ve only been able to run in them once each on the treadmill at the gym, as i only lasted 2 miles with the racers before i got blisters (ran barefoot), and lasted only 3 miles with the trainers before i again got blisters (ran w/ socks).  blisters were in different places on the 2 shoes, but after my blisters fully heal, i’ll give them each 1 more chance (reversing it so that i wear socks w/ the racers and barefoot w/ the trainers), before they’re both relegated to just casual wear duty.  part of me wonders if they’re just not cut out for me and my slightly wider than average feet.

        since i am actually lookin’ for a more “minimal” shoe to train in compared to the kinvara 3′s and mr10′s…i think i’ll take your advice and seriously check out the sketchers go bionic with it’s zero drop heel-to-toe drop.  i tried on the new balance minimus zero roads before, and while the fit felt great, i still prefer just a lil’ bit more “beef” in my cushioning, so the go bionic may finally be that zero drop shoe with the right amount of cushioning that i’m looking for.

        i’m anxious read your final review of the go run ride.  any early spoilers on the colorway?  the green (neon) / blue perhaps?  =)

        • http://www.BeyondDistance.com/ Kevin

          The Bionic feels a tiny bit (not sure if it’s because the shoe is new) more bouncy than the MR10 – and I presume the difference is even more pronounced when compared to the MR00. 

          I don’t know if the GOrun Ride will work for you, if your intention is to shift toward a minimalist style. But it’s definitely worth taking a look. In terms of colorway, I don’t know what will be available in stores. But I tweeted my blue Ride a while ago here: http://twitpic.com/9tfoh0

  • Surfing_vol

    Nice review. 

    I don’t have the mileage that you do on the K3′s, but I agree that the upper is much, much more comfortable than prior versions, especially around the area of my little toes. 

    Curiously, I noticed a “break in” period for the midsole.  Not a whole lot of miles, but at first the K3 felt firmer — kind of like a New Balance Minimus shoe — than it does now.  I like the softer (NOT marshmallow-y) feel on longer runs.

    • http://www.BeyondDistance.com/ Kevin

      Thank you for the feedback! I recall the Kinvara was a bit firmer as new – but not by much. I also have a Minimus Road in my rotation. In my case the Kinvara 3 has never felt as stiff as the Minimus. And I agree with you that the Kinvara 3 performs very well in longer distances!

      • Laurie

        I have the Kinvara 3, they are a very comfortable shoe and I like running in them, but the one thing I hate about them is the loud slapping noise they make upon landing. The only shoe I’ve ever bought that does this. errrrrghhhh!!!!